Sunday, February 24, 2008

Coffee, Pancakes, and Banking Executives

Early this morning 7:30 AM I went to a local pancake house here in the northern suburbs of Chicago called Walker Brothers. It is located right in the middle of an area where many major corporations are headquartered. Allstate, Baxter, Abbott, and Walgreens to name a few. The place was pretty empty early on a Saturday, but I happened to sit next to a banking executive (50-55 years old and one of the VP's in the company) he was having breakfast with a business contact/friend. The conversation went something like this:

Executive: I've been working for the last 4 months trying to close a several hundred million dollar loan.
Friend: Really?
Executive: Yes and the fed has lowered rates from 5.25% to 3%. The loan ended up closing at a higher interest rate than when we started the loan process, even with the fed lowering rates.
Friend: How did that happen?
Executive: Nothing the fed has done has helped.
Friend: Nothing?
Executive: Nothing they has done has helped, in fact, they have made things worse. Much worse.
Executive: They really screwed everything up. The markets are totally locked up. No one is funding anything except things with very specific goals like student loans. Everyone is scared that what they are going to buy is going to drop in value. This is a giant mess and it will not be solved easily. I do not even know what can be done to fix it right now. The fed funds rate has gone down, but now home lenders are adding on extra percentage points for what they called "risk premiums" . So the money is being lent at 5% plus another 2-3% or more for what is now called a 'risk premium'. This is being added on to anyone with a credit score of about 600 or lower. Over the last 2 years people were able to gain access to money who did not deserve to have loans that large. People also got very rich over making loans to those people and now everyone is paying the price.

I had to leave at that point, but it shows that the end of the story for housing and the economy is anything but nearing and end of this downtrend.
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